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Relaytech

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PostSubject: Maps-Paper and Software   4/6/2010, 5:50 pm

OK, this might not have been the best category for this question, but close enough.:-) I am looking for maps, paper or software, that have an emphases on dirt/gravel roads. I have not had any luck in finding any thing very useful yet. I have an Oregon and a Washington Road & Recreation Atlas, but they do not show enough detail. I also have the Garmin Topo US 24k West, but it would be a great if one could set it to high-light all dirt/gravel roads in red or something. So I am wondering if any one has found good "dirt-road" maps, or if you have found a good software to do something like that. I was wondering about the National Geographic stuff. Thanks guys!
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PostSubject: Re: Maps-Paper and Software   4/6/2010, 8:10 pm

Nope, haven't found anything good

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PostSubject: Re: Maps-Paper and Software   4/6/2010, 8:25 pm

Benchmark atlas show many roads, and is pretty accurate about road surface. But it doesn't show which ones have gates...
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PostSubject: Re: Maps-Paper and Software   4/6/2010, 8:25 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Maps-Paper and Software   4/7/2010, 12:44 pm

It has been my experience USGS topographic maps are the most accurate in depicting road surface characteristics. If you spend enough time researching the internet you can download them for free, print sections of them or mark up your other map resources to reflect road surfaces in the areas you expect to be in. If you have a favorite riding area, you can also collect vintage topo maps that will show roads, mines, etc. that have been deleted from newer maps.

Secondly, and used in combination with topos, the Delorme Gazetteers for your specific state. I have not experimented with their electronic base maps (actually, today was the first time I have seen the web page in a long time. Didn't know they have a link for base maps).

Electronically, there are a lot of GPS savvy programmers using public GIS information to make base maps with better detail information. Your favorite internet search engine is your best friend. Topo overlays as a base map would show dirt v. asphalt etc. but you probably lose automatic routing. A GPS unit with aerial photo overlay is a good example.

Anyway - thanks for the break from my reading for what it's worth...


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PostSubject: Re: Maps-Paper and Software   4/7/2010, 8:05 pm

The Forest Service have the ranger district maps at 1" = 1 mile, with some overlap of areas outside of there boundarys. The ones I've got show gates and trails, but they are old maps. I don't know if the new ones still show the same. I hear the maps go for 5$ a piece. By the way this is all in the Wenatchee National Forest so I don't know if I did you any good.

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PostSubject: Re: Maps-Paper and Software   4/8/2010, 8:18 pm

Thanks for all the input guys. I'm having a little luck using my Benchmark Oregon Road & Recreation Map in combination with my Garmin Topo US software. The Benchmark Maps show main dirt/gravel roads, but no detail on the lesser roads. The Topo software helps out on those, by my assuming that the lesser roads must be dirt too? It sure would be nice if Garmin would give more info on road surfaces and let you give them different colors like you can on saved tracks and routes! I guess that would make it to easy though!
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PostSubject: Re: Maps-Paper and Software   7/5/2010, 8:59 am

so im thinking about going and getting me the garmin 60csx, and was wondering what map background will i need to buy that will be work with washington states forest roads and paved roads?
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PostSubject: Re: Maps-Paper and Software   7/6/2010, 12:53 pm

I have the 60CSx and love it. I am currently running TOPO USA 24k on it. That means, it is 24k resolution, which is very good. It shows most roads in the back country that I have been on. You will need MapSource as well to look at, and to plan your routes on, and transfer data between your computer and GPS unit. There is a new release of TOPO 100k, which has even more resolution and more roads available on it, but I haven't found the 24k to be lacking anything so far. And on the smaller screen, with the resolution set that high, things get very muddy. I usually don't turn my resolution on my GPS unit above about medium for most work as it can be hard to read what you are looking for. Here is a link to some info on those TOPO programs;
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/buymaps.do

They have them available for download right on the site if you have a fast enough connection. My suggestion is the 24k for the ares you are planning to ride. I haven't been disappointed yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Maps-Paper and Software   7/7/2010, 1:19 pm

USFS, and DNR maps work very well for dirt roads and trails. You can get actual trail maps for off road and motorcycle trails through USFS and DNR also. There's something nice about having an actual paper map.
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PostSubject: Re: Maps-Paper and Software   7/7/2010, 7:40 pm

as far as finding a garmin 60 csx on sale for 199.00 is real tough i have not found one... what are the differences between the 60 cs and the 60 csx i noticed that the cs does not have a electronic compass. anything else? i can live with out that
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