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PostSubject: Pure frusteration   10/26/2013, 8:44 pm

Cleaning up the YZ for sale and...

Broke the bolt on the EXTRACTION.

As you can see there isn't a lot of room to work.  Drilling probably isn't viable, not sure.  Since I broke it taking it out...you know it is super tight in there, may be cross threading going on (or more likely seized theads)
My theory is to get a dremel and slot the bolt then heat it, then try and use a screw driver with lots of lube to get it out.  I honestly don't think it will even budge.
And also there is probably just OVER and inch of bolt left in there along with probably half and inch of swing arm thread.
Any other thoughts?

I really...REALLY don't want to take the swing arm off to bring it anywhere!!!! But maybe taking the whole thing to someone that could drill, put a nut on then mig weld the center??
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   10/26/2013, 9:33 pm

Start soaking with penetrating oil:  Be patient, spray and let soak numerous times over the the next several days.  Does the swing arm have any holes in it where you can get some penetrating solution to the inside?
a 50/50 mix of 100% acetone and dextron automatic transmission fluid.    The two fluids will separate like oil and vinegar so you have to shake the bottle well before spraying.  
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   10/27/2013, 2:39 pm

vice grips, oil, and a torch to the swingarm. you might have to buy a few sets of vice grips to get some that will get in there enough to turn it.
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   10/27/2013, 8:48 pm

penetrating oil for a few days, drill the bolt and use a easy out, maybe a little heat to help
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   10/27/2013, 9:09 pm

Id weld a nut on it, weld from center and while its hot back it out?
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   10/27/2013, 9:17 pm

OK, here is my 2¢. Get a nut on the end and weld it on. It will be tough but looks like it is doable.  The heat from welding it will also help in freeing it up. When it is hot hit it with some penetrating lube., not enough to cool it down thou. then try and remove it. I have used this on broken studs/bolts with great success. The key will be to get the nut welded on well with good penitration. Good luck, may the force be with you.
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   10/28/2013, 6:14 am

Welding is going to be my Plan B.  Only problem with it is there is a good inch or more let to come out and that is going to be the tougher way.  Also if I weld it...good chance I'll need to take the swing arm off and that costs money.  I'll really have to replace all the bearings while in there.  Just don't have any money to sink into this bike.
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PostSubject: Out of the box   10/28/2013, 12:55 pm

How about drilling out the center of the screw and then driving it in and leaving it?
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   10/28/2013, 2:41 pm

did you try vice grips?? I would be you $20 that would work
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   10/28/2013, 2:57 pm

Didn't try vice grips cause it's just too tight for that.  Like an idiot I kept trying to take it out with a wrench even though it was super tight.
1.Slot, heat, lube, then try to lossen...in or out.  If i don't use vice grips, i may be able to screw it all the way in and leave it until someone changes the bearings.
2.Drill shallow hole then weld nut...try to extract after heat and lube.
Last resort
3.Drill and tap...big hole if I have to.

*or course my boss forgot the dremel today so it might be awhile till i "get at it".  I am getting acetone (because i can get it by the gallon, lol) right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   10/31/2013, 2:38 pm

There is always "Swing Arm Buddy"!

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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   10/31/2013, 3:11 pm

Well plan A didn't work at all.  Didn't even budge.
Going to pass up plan B for plan C since my boss didn't want to weld it.  Too afraid he would melt the aluminum.
Plan C may also not work because I haven't been able to find long enough drill bits yet.  I'll figure that part out this weekend I guess.

Plan D and D1 are also in the works...thanks too Pete, LOL.  Going to google that Swing Arm Buddy now.
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   11/4/2013, 9:41 am

They make vice grips that will fit in there.. I know from experience
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   11/8/2013, 6:34 am

Well I almost got it.  Not happy at all but it will work.  If I was to keep the bike...I would probably take it somewhere to fill the hole and start all over.
Drilled it out to the next size.  Biggest problem is I didn't have an metric stuff to work with so I drill it to the next SAE size which is 3/8.  It is actually a little to big.  Also could only find a steel bolt which i didn't like.
Have the hole about 3/4 of the way tapped.  Need to find some sort of extension to continue tapping as I have no way of turning it.  Should be able to finish today at work and then slap this bad boy together.  Would have liked to replace all the bearings while I am in there, probably won't thou because extremely tight on money.
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   11/9/2013, 12:13 pm

She's a Happy-Happy girl now!  All done and put back together.
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PostSubject: Re: Pure frusteration   11/11/2013, 1:26 pm

Woo-hoo! I miss the good old days when you could work on a bike with hammer and vise-grips. All this aluminum and carbon fiber is not mcguyver friendly.
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